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  2019-October 8, BOE!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2019-10-08 boe.

  supporting the congregation as a pioneer.

  https://docdro.id/sf2rkwx.

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  Muddy Waters

  Ha, I remember the Pioneer Assist program... I was one of the ones they tried to pair with a pioneer sister. (Aside: despite name, I am female)

  Well, I was quite excited about it, because I really looked up to this sister... she was so “spiritual”, gave awesome comments, blah de blah, so amazing wonderfulness. ✨✨✨

  But, heh, she wasn’t so keen, it turned out, to be paired with me. (shock, dismay, sadness, sorrow, woe is me, sinful me....) We never even went out once. Not once. Ever.

  When I would ask the elders about it, the brothers (TM) would tell me that it was “still being set up” and that I should wait on Jehovah (this made no sense, wouldn’t I just wait on this sister to call me, or I call her?)

  Well, as usual, “waiting on Jehovah” means... nothing. As in, Nothing happens.

  I’d see her at the hall and smile hopefully at her, lol, but she’d always look away quickly or be on the other side of the hall no matter where I seemed to be, haha. Such a spiritually weak pathetic thing I must have been.

  I remember the hurt feelings and confusion, but now it all means nothing. All Moot. A memory quickly dimming and fading away....
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  2019-October 8, BOE!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2019-10-08 boe.

  supporting the congregation as a pioneer.

  https://docdro.id/sf2rkwx.

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  Muddy Waters

  Wow, thank you! Amazing. Feels like reading “1984”...
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  From ABC News - Australia

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this morning, this article appeared on our national online news channel; the abc.. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-10/jehovahs-witness-abuse-exposed/11561776.

  no-zombie.

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  Muddy Waters

  Thank you, no-zombie, for posting this, and thank you, doug mason, for making a pdf file!!

  👍🏼✨
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  JW.Org data

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  to think they have hung the blue and white sign on every building they own in the world and that this was a publicity campaign with the presumed backing of the god of the universe....... it's not going well.. despite the 8.5 million followers, who through design have to visit the site......it isn't even in the top ten..... top fifty..... top one hundred ......top two hundred visited sites globally.. users on average click through 7 pages per visit and don't stay long, averaging about a minute a page.. as for the data on its search over time 'jw.org' is now googled globally at a rate less than 25% of its peak and is usually associated for a search for the daily text.. .

  between this and the carts, the only message getting through to real people is 'child abuse' and that woman from king of queens taking an interest!.

  i sincerely think we are seeing evidence of what has been anecdotal decline...... waited long enough for it!.

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  Muddy Waters

  Awesome, thank you for breaking this down, excellent.

  !

  👍🏼✨
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  Blondie's Food For Thought 10 6 2019 WT Study, Let Your Love Abound (August 2019 issue)

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  blondie’s food for thought, 10/06/2019 wt study article, let your love abound (august 2019).

  opening comments:.

  i have been trying to condense my previous comments/highlights format.

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  Muddy Waters

  Hm.

  Blondie, I love you and all the hard work you do. How you can do this is beyond me… and so appreciated🌷

  May I say that I prefer your previous format? It’s easier to comprehend when it’s all laid out there, and I do not want to visit JW dot Organization...

  It was easier to have the paragraphs separately discussed, as well as being able to scan through or skip ahead or skim as need be.... 😄🤗
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  The smug arrogance of "having the truth".

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  has anyone noticed that witnesses (from the top down) seem to have a quiet form of smug arrogance toward all non witnesses?.

  perhaps it comes from being told how "special and unique" they are but they end up looking down on all normal members of the community because they are not witnesses.. so any form of "love" they show those in the territory is also limited as long as they accept the message...otherwise they are viewed contemptuously as "worldly" and therefore of little value...after all,they will be destroyed right?.

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  Muddy Waters

  Finklestein, This is what hurts the most about being in that goddamn cult....

  The way I treated my non-JW family… and everyone not “in the truth”.... it takes time to forgive yourself, and for some of them even to forgive you.... 😥
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  The smug arrogance of "having the truth".

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  has anyone noticed that witnesses (from the top down) seem to have a quiet form of smug arrogance toward all non witnesses?.

  perhaps it comes from being told how "special and unique" they are but they end up looking down on all normal members of the community because they are not witnesses.. so any form of "love" they show those in the territory is also limited as long as they accept the message...otherwise they are viewed contemptuously as "worldly" and therefore of little value...after all,they will be destroyed right?.

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  Muddy Waters

  Omg... yes... the smugness, the arrogance...

  Juxtapositioned against being meek, lowly, humble, submissive... a worm... a grasshopper... nothing but dust... a weak, inferior, fleshly organism... unworthy... sinful... imperfect... unrighteous... undeserving of kindness... doomed...

  And then, footstep followers, blessed by the sovereign of the universe... clean, righteous, holy, moral, like a pig washed from his mud, like a dog not eating his vomit... a precious pearl... highly valued in god’s eyes... blessed with special knowledge and insight, saved from the wicked world... upstanding... a glory to the nations, a spectacle to the world... (the JWs somehow thought that was a good thing, the spectacle to the world thing, where people would oooh and aaah at our holiness and uprightness...)

  Yes, omg, I think I even have some wrinkle lines of total smugness still etched on my face... but they are changing...

  I remember once even praying, “Oh Jehovah, thank you that I have the truth, and that I am not like these sinful, worldly people all around me...” and then I stopped cold, because I sounded JUST LIKE the Pharisee who was praying how thankful he was that he was not like those sinners... I remember feeling very confused and not knowing what to think... the cognitive dissonance was strong at times...

  And yes, I totally agree with Sparky that JWs do not have the market on arrogance smugness... I see it and recognize it instantly with any person or group or religion who also holds similar, superior types of views ... which I now find very sad, divisive, and un-enlightened ...
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  Annual Mtg Points

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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  2. friends

  matt 28: 19 is the year text.

  new understanding on joel ch 2 who are the locusts?.

  there is a new building addition to warwick in the works.

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  Muddy Waters

  I wonder what the new understanding is of the locusts..... ?
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  The Jehovah's Witnesses religion is a pretentious fraud.

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yup that's right the jws religion is a pretentious fraud orchestrated by men running their own religious publishing house.. these men cultivated a semblance of power around themselves through their own propagation of being chosen by god or being more righteous than other christian leaders by their self supporting acclaim that they have truer and more accurate bible interpretations.

  another known fact is these top leading men were not academically trained bible scholars.

  the first leading executive writer of the wts was a professional clothing salesman/ businessman.

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  Muddy Waters

  This thread is AWESOME. And hearing it like this.. geez.

  One wonders how they ever came to be so duped!!! - I was not born in, actually converted to this shit after going thru a very challenging time, once upon a time... anyway.

  Thank you. This thread is awesome! Every JW dupe/ dub should read it!

  Finklestein, your post should be made into a freakin’ FLYER and put out there!!
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  Netflix “Explained: Cults”

  by Butterfly607 in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  has anyone else seen the netflix documentary “explained: cults”?

  i thought it was well done.

  i feel like a jw might watch it and feel uncomfortable as the show goes through the definition of cults and then the step by step indoctrination process.

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  Muddy Waters

  I’ve not heard of this, so very much appreciate your bringing it to our attention! :)